Running out of goals

Compared to most other games, Wartune was pretty good at constantly giving new goals to players for a long time. But lately, it's getting harder.

I'm building my precious Hades since a year, and yesterday it became orange as well. so one less goal... I thought I will be happy when I make it finally orange, but I'm just sad, since I can't advance him further :( And now everyone is running from me in BG, while it was purple, it was easier to find opponents.

I have maxed out the following:

- XP

- astrals

- mount hoofs (well, almost)

- soul crystal

- fate stone

- dragon soul

- gems (well, all lvl 10, can't really get anywhere further)

- equipment

What I can still work on:

- astral refinement

- enchanting sylph gear

- soul seals (although I have 16k SS saved up, so if they add the SS event I wait for, I might get close to max it immediately)

- honors (to gather up for the future medal update)

- mount whips

- runes

- holy forge

- resist crystals

I would love to see some exchange mechanism in Wartune where I can turn my extra dragon souls, soul crystals, fate stones etc. into mounts and clothes I don't have :)

Tomorrow is a big spender event, and it is quite funny:

It gives sylph gear and enchantment (we get too much for free, worth nothing), gems (got 100+ lvl 10 for free, so dont need them either), sepu and mahra (orange sylph! don't need them either), soul seal (did I mention I have 16k and never paid for it?), dragon soul (maxed since a long time!). So the only valuable item here is the event chests.

And why I say funny? Because I started the playing only 1 year later, and didn't spend tens of thousands of dollar on it - still, these packs are useless to me. Then what do the real whales think, who are the primary targets of these sales?

Yeah - big spender packs should include vulcan hammers, resist crystals, mounts, crypt keys, bound balens, mount whips, lvl 11+ gems and not a few million, but a few 100 million gold to look appealing.

By the way - how do you like the new silent nerf? That crypt keys almost never drop in blitz now. Nice, isn't it?

sylph pack + big spender combo

Here is some triple combo running currently which worth an analysis:
big spender + wheel of prosperity + mahra/sepulcrum packs.
Of course a lot of gamble is included! 

First, lets check the value of the packs. Value is hard to determine, since we don't know the exact chances - the packs are very expensive so we don't have too much statistics. So I used the statistics for Violet boxes which were very similar.

30 x 0.68 = 20.4
40 x 0.25 = 10
100 x 0.06 = 6
300 x 0.01 = 3
600 x 0.001 = 0.6
1000 x 0.001 = 1

So thats an average amount of 41 sepulcrum / mahra per pack. So you pay 24,3 balens apiece: pretty expensive, considering that I value sepulcrum to 12 balens and mahra to 5 balens.

Now let's see if big spender and the wheel can improve this value. The Wheel gives an average value of 90 balens for every 1000 balens spent (this is based on a small statistics). Additionally, each pack has some balen value. I do not go into details here, just: flame chest 30, soul seal 10, sepu 12, mahra 5 balens. Gold, daru and gem pack represent no value.

pack value: 80 balens, wheel: 90. Total: 17% bonus

previous (170) + 180+90 = 440. Total: 22% bonus

previous (440) + 1260+270 = 1970. Total: 39% bonus

previous (1970) + 2500+450 = 4920. Total: 49% bonus

previous (4920) + 5000+900 = 10820. Total: 54% bonus


Looks like an almost okay deal. There are only 2 problems:
1.) You need to spend at least 100 USD to make it worth.
2.) There is a LOT of gamble and luck factor included.

Recent events and changes

Dear Readers, today I write a quick summary of recent events and changes in Wartune.

1.) Big Spender. The same as previous big spenders, it's less and less appealing. It mostly gives stuff which is useless / can get a lot for free / almost maxed. For me, nothing interesting there besides sepulcrum and mahra. And they also fail to combine it with some good sale. So without detailed analysis, big spender is a NO BUY imho.

2.) Cloth synthesis. We accumulated a lot of free fashion cores and luck charms from wild shop in the past months, it's time to spend them! Don't forget, that you can claim the lvl 3 and lvl 4 reward too if you make a lvl 5 cloth. So best strat is not to use all ingredients and make a lvl 6 cloth now, just make a lvl 4 or 5, make one a month later etc. You earn more rewards this way. See more on cloth synthesis here.

3.) World boss final attack cannot be survived anymore. The worst part about this is that it came "unannounced". What did they think, that we wont notice? I remember when I played some Final Fantasy episode, which had some nice challenges even after I won the game. Some 1-million HP super boss which was a good opponent still. In Wartune, surviving the boss, then surviving it multiple times was a goal we could work to achieve. Building guardian rune, making high level HP gems etc. They take it away because they hope we shall now spend balen on WB revive now. Well, I won't, I never did. WB was fun, now it's damn boring again.

4.) Mars will working correctly now. Again not a word about this. As you all knew, Mars will was supposed to spread damage equally between members of the team. It shouldn't have done much with an AoE. Well, it was bugged, and reduced AoE damages (and heals) by 75% so it was really great help in Tower of Kings, and helped knights survive WB. Well, this bug is no more. We knew it will be gone eventually.

The game is changing constantly. Things get nerfed, and sometimes we get unexpected awesome rewards (like gem synthesis). The Wartune game designer's concept is that surprise is a good element. To some extent, I agree, but we had too much surprise lately....

October big spender analysis

Here is a short analysis of the October big spender event. It's almost identical to the previous one, so nothing really great here.

Item values:
mount whip = 2 balens, hoof = 10 balens, mahra = 5 balen, sepulcrum = 10 balens, SC = 0.5 balen, S quality cloth = 600 balens, lvl 6 gem = 122 balens, atoll pack = 30 balens.
Prices are based on recent blog posts and this article.
I consider insignia, dragon souls, gold, daru and legend stones zero value (you can get too many for free to assign any balen value to these).


52 balens (5% bonus)


185 + 52 (previous pack) = 237 balens (12%)

1070 + 237 (prev. pack) = 1307 balens (26%)


1750 + 1307 = 3057 balens (30%)



2944 + 3057 = 6001 balens (30%)

6076 + 6001 = 12077 balens (40%)


6564 + 12077 = 18641 balens (37%)


Please also note that last gem events, we got a truckload of lvl 8 gems, so I have doubts that gems worth anything anymore. Let's see if there is anything of value for sale:
mahra 25 balens each: 5x realistic price
sepulcrum 20 balens each: 2x realistic price
atoll pack 39 balens each: 1,3x realistic price

So the best thing you can do is buy atoll packs for at least 10k balens, and claim the 30% bonus, then you get the +1 BR per 10 balens spent value. Effectively, you get no bonus, you just get stuff for the expected price. We have seen much, much better promotions in the past 2 months. 
Please consider Wartune's current situation. They are unable to correct the lags, bugs, and exploits added to the game since patch 3.1, that's like 6 weeks. Their customer service is paralyzed, they are no longer able to resolve problems, they get too many tickets (I have an 1 month old unresolved ticket). The community's frustration grows, and they respond only with more sales as usual. So expect bigger sales, bigger discounts soon, and skip suboptimal promotions like this one. If you still think you need to spend a large amount of money on Wartune, wait, there will be much better opportunities.

A good Wartune deal

I would like to call your attention to a good deal, which is pretty rare lately in Wartune. They run a mini "big spender" event, with a not-so-great bonus (worth about 20% of what you spend). But they also have in the shop two mounts for 5995 balens (packed with 150 mount whips). I hope no one bought these mounts yesterday, when the event was not running.

What I recommend, buy ONE of the mounts, and claim all 3 prizes from the event. This way, you get a +30 mount, 150 mount whips, 100 sepulcrum and some other goodies for 5995 balens. So you get approx. +1 BR per every 8 balens spent. Please also do not forget, that with the recent whip+gem combo events, you can get a LOT of whips. I spent about 30-30k free whips in August and September, and have over 50k now. So maxing out mount whip is a reality now, and that increases the value of new mounts which increase the number of whips you can spend. (Although these are crappy ones, only +5 mount stats, but still something).

And referring to the article I posted yesterday:
If Wartune should have run these two 2-day events at the same time (mount sale + big spender), then

• people who bought the mounts yesterday wouldn't be frustrated (+customer satisfaction)
• people would buy BOTH mounts, not only one (+extra income for them)

Gem event & big spender

First of all, I would like to say Wartune a big thank you for the current gem event! Last gem event, I said this can be only a mistake, they can't be that generous. But they can, the event is repeated, this time they even add war packs. Often we complain about the lag, the bugs, and the greediness of the sales, but this time, I have to say, as long as they have such events I will keep playing. Because getting a truckload of treasure is real fun, we all enjoy it :) I not only made a big heap of lvl 8 gems, but also got 500 war packs, which gave me 5 blazing taurens, so I ended up with all clothes and a huge amount of will shards.

Please note that right now, everyone have lvl 8 gems, even free players on S400+. So having level 8 gems means really no advantage. The only question is if you should make level 9 (or even level 10) gems, or wait for a future gem event where we get rewards for making those.

First of all, let's examine what's the probability of such an event happening. We have seen already this in the past: the first cloth synthesiser event gave rewards for level 3-5 clothes, and now they give for level 6 too. Also, first gem synthesiser events gave reward for making level 4 gems, but not for level 8. So yes, this is quite possible. Still, it can happen maybe in one month, maybe in 4 month, maybe never.

Second, let's see what's the advantage of making level 9 gems. Personally, I made lvl 9 HP gems. This made possible for me to defeat sky trial 3-5, and earn +2 horns per day. Also, now I can survive second world boss 3-4 times in a row, so that's like +1.5M gold daily. 60 horns and 45M gold monthly, not to mention the advantage in combat. If they add reward for level 9 gems in a month, it wasn't a good deal, if in four, I say it worth it. To be honest, I even consider making the lvl 9 MATK gems, thats a huge advantage everywhere.

What I recommend here is a strategy used by financial experts: diversificate your portfolio. You can make some lvl 9 gems, which make a real difference for you. But still, save a good deal of lvl 8 gems, so in case they add a reward for that, you still can grab nice loot. 

BIG SPENDER

Please also note that a big spender event is running currently. I do not make a detailed calculation here, just rough numbers: if you go until 5k it's 25% bonus, if you go further, you get approx. 30% bonus. The previous big spenders were much much better. Please note that this is not only because the prices of gems and mount hoof has dropped, but also because the war packs included we already got for free by hundreds, also who needs lvl 80 legend stones? And the dragon souls, I get like 50 for free daily, and need 2000 for next level, so I wouldn't pay for them. Seemingly this big spender is targeted towards beginner players, it's better value for them than for veteral players. I bought my monthly spirit covenant pack and claimed the 1k bonus, but that's it. 

Third big-spender in a month

Hi all! It seems Wartune has a financial problems, since they run the third big spender in a month... I'm happy to spend some money on the game, especially if I get a good deal. But I can't cough up 500+ USD each month just to keep up with the others. Anyway, here is the susual analysis.

You will see at first glance that the prizes are decent, maybe even better than last time. But remember what I said in this article: each month, there will be better and better offers. If you skip one, it just means you get an even better offer next month for your money. Getting good BR for your balen is one thing. Staying in the monthly limit you set for yourself is another.

So we have a big spender now, there is also a sylph enchant event. It seems we have to hoard mahra and sepulcrum as well from now on besides soul crystals, mount whips, resistance crystals and who knows what else. Great news :) As a coincidence, there is sepulcrum for sale in the shop, for a neat 20 balen per piece cost. A sepulcrum worth only 10 balens max, so this price is pretty steep. But combined with the slyph enchant reward and the big spender bonus, it can be worthwhile if you still have some money left from your monthly lottery win.

Let's suppose you spend your money on sepulcrum (nothing else worth it), see what bonus you can get compared to the +1 BR / 10 balens value which can get any day.

Please see this guide for item pricing. I definitely value mount hoof to 20 balens now, since we are getting so many in promotions and in dragon invasion so it's only a matter of weeks until I need 100 for +10 stats. Also, I consider old-fashioned pack worthless - anyone who needed these already and had the option to recharge, bought enough for tailoring/cloth identify, so all you can do with them is now get duplicate clothes. Also I no longer count balen value for gold. Earning like 20M a day for completely free, and in need to spend 200M+ to get any improvement in astral, I would simply not pay any balen for a few 100K gold, not even one.

Spend 1,000 Balens to receive: 100,000 Gold, 50,000 Daru, Insignia x40, Mount Training Whip x10, Old-fashioned Pack x1

You buy 50 sepulcrum, use it, and get 10 more. This worth a total of 600 balens. Also the above pack worth 20 balens (the whips), nothing else has value. So you get 620 balen worth of goodies for 1000 balens. -38% negative bonus, BAAD deal.

Spend 2,000 Balens to receive: 200,000 Gold, 200,000 Daru, Fashion Core x5, Mahra x5, Sylph Sepulcrum x5, Mount Hoof x5, Old-fashioned Pack x1

You buy 100 sepulcrum, use it, get 25 more, use them, get 5 more. Total value 1300 balens. Also the above stuff worth 5x200 (cores) + 5x10 (mahra) + 5x10 (sepu) + 5x20 (hoof) = 1200. So you get a total value of 2520 (I included 20 from prev. pack) for 2000 balens. 26% bonus. You get this in any sale or better, so it's nothing special.

Spend 5,000 Balens to receive: 400,000 Gold, 200,000 Daru, Good Luck Charm x5, Mahra x20, Sylph Sepulcrum x20, Mount Hoof x20, Old-fashioned Pack x2

So you buy and enchant to get sepu worth 3250 balens. The previous 2 packs worth 1220, this one worth 1800. You get a total value of 3250+1220+1800 = 6270 balens. 25% bonus, same as the previous one, not too good.

Spend 10,000 Balens to receive: 800,000 Gold, 400,000 Daru, Fashion Core x10, Mahra x40, Sylph Sepulcrum x40, Mount Hoof x40, Old-fashioned Pack x4

You buy sepu worth 6600, previous packs 3020, and this one is 3600. 32% bonus, it's getting better.

Spend 20,000 Balens to receive: 1,600,000 Gold, 800,000 Daru, Good Luck Charm x10, Mahra x70, Sylph Sepulcrum x70, Mount Hoof x70, Lvl. 6 HP Gem x2, Old-fashioned Pack x6

You buy sepu worth 13250 balens, prev. packs total value is 6620, this one is 5824. That's a total of 28% bonus.

Spend 30,000 Balens to receive: 3,200,000 Gold, 1,600,000 Daru, Fashion Core x25, Mahra x100, Sylph Sepulcrum x100, Mount Hoof x100, Lvl. 7 HP Gem x2, Old-fashioned Pack x10

You buy sepu worth 19900 balens, prev. packs total value is 12444, this one is 13096. That's a total of 51% bonus! Same as with last big spender, the first worthwhile pack is at 300 USD. Sad news for low cashers.

Spend 50,000 Balens to receive: 4,000,000 Gold, 2,000,000 Daru, Fashion Core x40, Mahra x150, Sylph Sepulcrum x150, Mount Hoof x150, Lvl. 8 HP Gem x1, Chimera Card x1

You buy sepu worth 33200 balens, prev. packs total value is 25540, this one is 26144. That's 69% bonus, the first time in Wartune's history that the 500 USD pack is a better deal than the 300 USD pack.

But there are a few things to notice: if you are considering to buy an 500 USD pack, prolly you already spent thousands on this game. Then your sylph is in the several star purple (or even orange category). In this case, mahra worth far less than 10 balens, since you need a LOT for a tiny upgrade. Also, you prolly refined all clothes. When refining a 2 or 3 star cloth again, you win much less BR for the same balen, so a core worth much less for you. So the above bonus refers to a "wartune virgin's" purchase bonus. For veterans, who actually buy this, the real total value of the above packs (1 BR / balen-wise) is more like 36604, so your bonus here is only 39% (and it is less for previous packs as well).

Anyway, the bonus is nice, there are 2 things I don't like:

1.) I get in the pack a lot of things I don't need. Some gold is okay, but sylph xp scroll, daru, insignia, old-fashioned packs? C'mon...

2.) This is just too much in one month. 5-600 USD, I would like to spend it in 6-12 monhts, not in one.

August big spender

I wanted to write a full article about class advancement and how does that work, but there is something more urgent, a big spender - it's analysis follows. As usual, Wartune adds big spender 2 days after you had a lot of things to spend on (marriage, etc) so a lot of people spent balen already... I know it was coming, so I delayed marrage etc... :)

39+20+0+0+2 =61 balens (6% bonus)



50+200+39+0+50+4+61 (previous)=404 balens (20% bonus)


200+300+78+800+200+8+404=1990 balens (39% bonus)

400+150+156+1600+400+16+1990=4712 (47% bonus)



700+3000+1024+234+2800+700+32+4712=10682 (53% bonus)


2048+600+390+4000+1000+1000+64+10682= 19784 (66% bonus)

320+6000+1536+1500+780+1500+128+19784= 31548 (63% bonus)




The current bonus is pretty decent. Please note that the high value comes from hoofs counted for 40 balens each. 50 hoof upgrades a mount by +10 - and a +10 mount costs 2000 balens, so this is correct so far. But you should know, that once you complete class advancement, you can earn like 40-45 hoof per day in Dragon invasion. So, one aspect is: you earn a +10 mount worth 2000 balens each day... the other is, why pay 40 balen for something that I find every day by dozens :)

Also, only the first star upgrade is 50 hoof. The second is 100. So as long as you have unrefined mounts, hoof worth 40 balen (and I have  lot). But as soon as you refined all to star 1, hoof will worth only 20 balens. All in all, this is a decent bonus. If you didn't do marriage yet, you miss the mounts they sell now, you need sylph skills etc. I recommend to SPEND.

But buy only stuff you would buy otherwise too, and only if you get at least +1 BR per 10 balen spent.

July big spender

A big spender event went live today. It is the exact copy of the June big spender event, they did not change anything. So just check my June analysis, the same applies here.

Conclusion: if your fate is not maxed out, you can get an okay (25%) bonus here if you spend at least 200 USD. But wait at least 1 day! Some more sale might come up, and you might spend some balens as well in god's descent. Also, the question is, if there is something to spend so much balens on. The obvious choices:


Imperial chests. You can read in detail about the imperial chests here. In short, probably the worst and greediest event is running currently in Wartune's history. It completely relies on people spending mindlessly on something which they desire much. If you need Apollo/Hades, AND are willing to spend a lot of money to collect enough shards for evolve, hope you were patient enough to wait for this big spender (I told you it's coming). Now you will be still ripped off, but at least 25% less :) If you dont have 400 bucks to get it for sure, but want to gamble some money: set your limit first, and stick to it!

Crypt keys to advance your dragon soul. I wrote about this in my previous article about Dragon soul, I don't recommend spending a large amount of balen on this, but to reach the next bonus pack together with other spendings its okay to buy a few.


God's descent. If you want to get far, you might spend some balens here (but not too much!). So do god's descent, jewel hunt etc. before you spent on anything else, so you dont spend a balen more than necessary.

Don't even think about buying mount whips, mahra etc. and other crap which is for sale. These are sold for 5-10 times their real value. And take me as an example. I never spend a cent on soul crystals and mount whips. Now my soul engrave is maxed out, and my stable is halfway to level 8. (Too bad the 70 free imperial chests I could claim for lvl 6 and 7 upgrade gave me nothing rare.) Just be patient, and use stuff only when you get bonus for doing so.

June big spender analysis

The previous big spender promotion was okay, let's see how good is the current one.

First, let's see the value of items:

gold: 1 balen per 50.000
daru. worthless
crypt token: worthless
mahra: 10 balens
whip: 2 balens
fate stone: 10 balens (if it's not maxed)
star sand and tear: since you need only a limited amount of these, and you can get them for free eventually, also you don't gain BR here, just your awakened sylph will be stronger, it's very difficult to assign a value. I will have 1000 star sand in a week or so for free, so I don't think there is much point in paying for it. Same for star tears, although it takes more time. The only importance of these would be when you want to evolve your second sylph. But you should do it only to win more in sylph arena, which gets you only sepulcrum, which is not such a big deal. Anyway, you should worth for yourself how much these goodies worth to you. To me, star sand 1, star tear, max. 2 balens.

Spend 2,000 Balens to receive: 200,000 Gold, 100,000 Daru, Crypt Tokens x80, Mahra x5, Star Sand x50, Gods' Gift x1
   value: 4 + 0 + 0 + 50 + 50 + 39 = 143 balens (7.1% bonus)

Spend 5,000 Balens to receive: 400,000 Gold, 200,000 Daru, Mount Training Whip x100, Sylph Sepulcrum x10, Star Sand x100, Gods' Gift x2
  value: 8 + 0 + 200 + 50 + 100 + 78 + 143 (prev. pack) = 579 balens (11.6% bonus)

Spend 10,000 Balens to receive: 800,000 Gold, 400,000 Daru, Soul Crystal x300, Mahra x40, Star Sand x150, Gods' Gift x4
  value: 16 + 0 + 150 + 400 + 150 + 156 + 579 (prev. packs) = 1451 balens (14.5% bonus)

Spend 20,000 Balens to receive: 1,600,000 Gold, 800,000 Daru, Fate Stone x300, Sylph Sepulcrum x60, Star Tear Shard x50, Gods' Gift x6
  value: 32 + 0 + 3000 + 300 + 100 + 234 + 1451 (prev. packs) = 5117 balens (25.5% bonus)

Spend 30,000 Balens to receive: 3,200,000 Gold, 1,600,000 Daru, Mount Training Whip x300, Star Tear Shard x100, Gods' Gift x10
  value: 64 + 0 + 600 + 200 + 380 + 5117 (prev. packs) = 6361 balens (21.2% bonus)

Spend 50,000 Balens to receive: 4,000,000 Gold, 2,000,000 Daru, Crystal Shard x800, Star Tear Shard x150, Sylph Sepulcrum x150, Gods' Gift x20
  value: 80 + 0 + 320 + 300 + 750 + 760 + 6361 (prev. packs) = 8571 balens (17.1% bonus)

As you can see, the only case when you get the minimum bonus they give during such promotions (25+ %) is the 20k pack. The question is, if there is anything in the shop worth buying.

• You can spend a few thousand balens on the skills of your future evolved sylph.
• You can buy god's gifts to get the scorpion mount and spend about 10k more.
• "hot sales", sepulcrum is 4 times more than the realistic price, mahra is 2.5 times more expensive, don't buy those.

Conclusion: this promotion is no worse or better than the ones we see every month. If you have 20k balens you purchased earlier with some recharge bonus, need the scorpion, and your fate is not maxed out, it's okay to spend. But it's not so good so it worth to recharge 20k without getting a recharge bonus. you better wait, there will be better and better promotions as time passes.

Soul engrave & big spender

We got two "events" today, soul engrave and big spender. Wartune gives the same events us each month, but there is always some twist, so it's wise to examine if participating is worth it or not.

Soul engrave. use 100 soul crystals, and receive 100k gold, 100k daru, lvl 1-5 gem pack and 30 soul crystals.

Please note that the 30 soul crystal you receive you can use again to claim more rewards, which you can use again to claim even more etc.So this event is actually:


Spend 100 soul crystals, and receive 142k gold, 142k daru, 1.4 x lvl 1-5 gem pack and 43 soul crystals. 

100 SC worth 50 balens.142k gold worth 3 balens, 1.4 lvl 1-5 gem pack worth about 7 balens, 43 SC worth 21 balens (daru worth nothing). So by using a goodie worth 50 balens, you get a bonus pack of 31 balens. More than 50% bonus! A really great offer, you should spend all your SC. And don't worry about not getting mahra, mahra is overpriced anyway.

Big spender: the bonus packs looks pretty weak at first sight.


pack1: 33*+25+2=60 balens (6% discount)**


pack2: 33+100+4+60(prev. pack)=197 balens (9.8% discount)


pack3: 66+1000+8+197(previous)=1271 balens (25% discount)

*see Father's love value explained here
**prices calculated using this guide

Looks like if you want to get some reasonable discount, you need to spend 5000 balens. And that's with me valuing sepulcrum to 10 balens (will make an entire article just about sepulcrum soon).

Now let's see if there is something worthwhile to buy.
First, if you saved up your horns from sky trial, and think you should spend balens to get more will crystals, this can be the good time.
Buying fashion core for 270 balens apiece is a decent deal too since cloth synthesis.
If your fate is not maxed out, you can spend balens to reach chest2 and maybe chest3.
There is also on sale Poseideon's wing, a class A wing for 1726 balens. Unless this wing is essential to upgrade your wing by 1 level in the near future, this deal doesn't worth it: the stamina itself you get after identify worth only 400 balens (8x5 endurance: 40 BR)
And don't even think about buying soul crystal packs!