Showing posts with label sepulcrum. Show all posts
Showing posts with label sepulcrum. Show all posts

2014/12/04

December big spender analysis

We have a big spender + sylph upgrade + mahra base pack sale combo coming tomorrow in Wartune, so here is a quick analysis.

If you look closely at the picture, you will notice immediately the problem: you get the same weapon cloth with all 3 packs. Hopefully they correct it by tomorrow.
Other than that, these packs are pretty focused, just useful items. If you buy for 100 USD, the approx. value is 4000 balens, if you buy up to 200 USD, the approx. value is 8200 balens. So the bonus for 100 and 200 USD is about the same, if you spend less, the discount is much worse, however.



What you should buy is obviously either the mahra or the sepulcrum pack. This packs looks very, very similar to the crystal shard pack, so we can assume the drop rates are the same. Cosmos blog has a nice statistics on this, so based on that, we get an average of 80 sepu / mahra per pack.






The above combo with the now-permanent feature, prosperity wheel, and the sylph enchant / upgrade feature.

So, if you spend 10.000 balens (buying 10 packs):
 you get 800 mahra, which, when used, gives an additional 200 mahra (worth a total of 5000 balens) you get items worth 4000 balens value from big spender, and you get an average of 900 balens value from 10 prosperity wheel rolls. The same math works for 20.000 balens.
If your main sylph is far from maxing sepulcrum, then you should buy sepulcrum instead, it's even better BR gain for the same amount of balens.

So this is an okay deal, green light if you wanna spend :) Just wait until they correct the clothes.

Just two precaution notes:

  • 10 (or 20) pack is very little for the average value work. It can happen easily that you got 10 packs with 30 mahra :(
  • This is big spender I. So maybe something even heavier is coming for Christmas :) Also don't forget, sylph equipment is coming too, so if you have limited financial resources, you might save balens for those.

2014/11/28

Black friday "sale"



Really amazing! We cant event get a real discount on "black friday" sales in Wartune.

mahra normally sells for 25, sepu for 15. so 1 mahra+1 sepu is 40: exactly the same they sell it here. Btw mahra's realistic value is 5, sepu is 10-12, so this "sale" is double of realistic price.
mount whip worth 2 balens, SC is 0.4 balen (well, it actually worth nothing, since no SC event since 2 months) but anyway, the value here is 600 balen, they again sell for double price.
mount hoof and soul seals value is approx 10 balens each. So the third pack is 2k balen. Why buy it for 5k balens?
Vulcan's hammer worth approx 20 balens at the stage where I am, but price drops quickly as chance decreases. Stoves hold no value to me, have a lot from sylph boss. So 6k balens for a 2k pack, pretty ridiculous.
Will crystals approx 3 balens, crystal shard 0.4 balens (these are normal ingame prices!!) so this is 700 balens. Again no discount at all.

I see there is an extra 1M gold in each pack, but it worth nothing, really. So my question is, with all the SC and HoF fumble, wouldn't it be wise to do a REAL SALE at once? Because there will be only a very low number of fools who fall to these scams (even with the big spender combined) and Wartune lose a LOT of money.

2014/11/10

Hoard or use?

Chinese browser games including Wartune has a unique feature, they reward people who do not use resources, but hoard them. I have seen the same in an older game, Business Tycoon online too. Probably the original concept was to combine an event where you get reward for using a resource with a sale, where people can buy the resource – and sales will skyrocket.

However, the idea does not seem to work in practice. Players (or at least, some of them) are smart. They hoard the resources they get for free, and use them only when they get rewarded. Sales could be still a great idea, but not when you collect 1000 resources for free, and can buy 10 more for 50 USD.

Personally, I don't think that the hoard concept is so great, since:
  • It forces players NOT to use ANY resources to develop characters, but save up these for weeks, maybe months. We love to use stuff the moment we get them. Holding back, is like holding back your... you know.
  • It increases the gap between players – especially since in Wartune, you hoard and reward the same 3-4 resources around, so the benefits increase exponentially. Players who started later, or with less, or are on holiday during such an event, or just used some without reward are falling behind more.
  • When it ends – and it will, when you are maxed and can't use more – it will feel quite desperate. When you spend thousands of SC, gems, whips each week and get a huge BR boost every time, you get used to the euphoria. When it's over, it's bad.


Still, I agree that these „treasure showers” are great for the community morale, we are even willing to overlook lags, bugs, lack of CS as long as we get tons of treasure.

Anyway, we know that we have to hoard soul crystals, mount training whips, gems, sepulcrum, mahra, resist crystals, bounty scrolls, since we know there is a regular „hoard-and-use” event for these. But what about the other resources? Should I save mount hoofs? Dragon souls? Runestones? Etc. I would say, think what you win if you use these resources. If it nets good weekly reward, use some or maybe all. If it doesn't help you that much, save it. But let's see each.

Fate stones. Maxing out fate stone abilies was pretty easy, even for non-cashers. For this reason, we didn't expect any significant hoard event: and recently, they added one with great rewards. So now I say, if you didn't maxed fate yet, don't. Leave it at 20/18 and 20/19, just in case.

Lvl 8 gems. Question is, should I make lvl 9 or 10 gems? Or wait for an event which gives reward for these? Personally I decided to make the lvl 10 atk gems, and my team members did the same. This way now we can easily do 7 boss in DI every day, so win +20 hoof +20 dragon soul and some gold with it. It also made possible for me to do sky trial 3-5. I also made lvl 10 HP gems so I can survive World Boss 1 too. Which I could, but then WB got nerfed – so maybe this wasn't such a great idea. But with Hall of Fame coming up, almost everyone will make as much lvl 9 and 10 they can anyway.

Mount hoofs. It is possible that they will add a hoard-and-use event for mount hoofs. But also, hoofs are a real badass BR-boost. So I did the following: pumped up all my mounts to 2 star. It's a lot of BR, really. 3 star costs 200 hoofs, things slow down here, so I save up them now. But hoof are only available to lvl 80 class advanced players, so it is less likely that there will be a spender event on this.

Runestones. I don't expect a spender event for these, but of course I have the basic caution of always saving up like 1-2000 of these and use only when I can gain immediately a new level for a runestone.

Dragon souls. Some people might have maxed this out already, or maxing it out soon, and it is open only to lvl 80 class advancement players anyway, so I think dragon souls are safe to spend.

Daru. Although you can spend any amount of wild shop, I recommend that you save up 600-800M for the next troops.

Gold. You can always save up gold for gem synthetiser and cloth identify events: leave the world boss prize2 in your mail, do not use gold chests, store luckstones and vip tokens.


There are many other stuffs too: refinement crystals, vulcan hammers/stoves, heaven horns, amethyst etc. which they can use for a „hoard-and-use” event anytime in Wartune. I always save up some of these – just in case – but use the majority of them.

2014/08/30

Third big-spender in a month

Hi all! It seems Wartune has a financial problems, since they run the third big spender in a month... I'm happy to spend some money on the game, especially if I get a good deal. But I can't cough up 500+ USD each month just to keep up with the others. Anyway, here is the susual analysis.

You will see at first glance that the prizes are decent, maybe even better than last time. But remember what I said in this article: each month, there will be better and better offers. If you skip one, it just means you get an even better offer next month for your money. Getting good BR for your balen is one thing. Staying in the monthly limit you set for yourself is another.

So we have a big spender now, there is also a sylph enchant event. It seems we have to hoard mahra and sepulcrum as well from now on besides soul crystals, mount whips, resistance crystals and who knows what else. Great news :) As a coincidence, there is sepulcrum for sale in the shop, for a neat 20 balen per piece cost. A sepulcrum worth only 10 balens max, so this price is pretty steep. But combined with the slyph enchant reward and the big spender bonus, it can be worthwhile if you still have some money left from your monthly lottery win.

Let's suppose you spend your money on sepulcrum (nothing else worth it), see what bonus you can get compared to the +1 BR / 10 balens value which can get any day.

Please see this guide for item pricing. I definitely value mount hoof to 20 balens now, since we are getting so many in promotions and in dragon invasion so it's only a matter of weeks until I need 100 for +10 stats. Also, I consider old-fashioned pack worthless - anyone who needed these already and had the option to recharge, bought enough for tailoring/cloth identify, so all you can do with them is now get duplicate clothes. Also I no longer count balen value for gold. Earning like 20M a day for completely free, and in need to spend 200M+ to get any improvement in astral, I would simply not pay any balen for a few 100K gold, not even one.

Spend 1,000 Balens to receive: 100,000 Gold, 50,000 Daru, Insignia x40, Mount Training Whip x10, Old-fashioned Pack x1

You buy 50 sepulcrum, use it, and get 10 more. This worth a total of 600 balens. Also the above pack worth 20 balens (the whips), nothing else has value. So you get 620 balen worth of goodies for 1000 balens. -38% negative bonus, BAAD deal.

Spend 2,000 Balens to receive: 200,000 Gold, 200,000 Daru, Fashion Core x5, Mahra x5, Sylph Sepulcrum x5, Mount Hoof x5, Old-fashioned Pack x1

You buy 100 sepulcrum, use it, get 25 more, use them, get 5 more. Total value 1300 balens. Also the above stuff worth 5x200 (cores) + 5x10 (mahra) + 5x10 (sepu) + 5x20 (hoof) = 1200. So you get a total value of 2520 (I included 20 from prev. pack) for 2000 balens. 26% bonus. You get this in any sale or better, so it's nothing special.

Spend 5,000 Balens to receive: 400,000 Gold, 200,000 Daru, Good Luck Charm x5, Mahra x20, Sylph Sepulcrum x20, Mount Hoof x20, Old-fashioned Pack x2

So you buy and enchant to get sepu worth 3250 balens. The previous 2 packs worth 1220, this one worth 1800. You get a total value of 3250+1220+1800 = 6270 balens. 25% bonus, same as the previous one, not too good.

Spend 10,000 Balens to receive: 800,000 Gold, 400,000 Daru, Fashion Core x10, Mahra x40, Sylph Sepulcrum x40, Mount Hoof x40, Old-fashioned Pack x4

You buy sepu worth 6600, previous packs 3020, and this one is 3600. 32% bonus, it's getting better.

Spend 20,000 Balens to receive: 1,600,000 Gold, 800,000 Daru, Good Luck Charm x10, Mahra x70, Sylph Sepulcrum x70, Mount Hoof x70, Lvl. 6 HP Gem x2, Old-fashioned Pack x6

You buy sepu worth 13250 balens, prev. packs total value is 6620, this one is 5824. That's a total of 28% bonus.

Spend 30,000 Balens to receive: 3,200,000 Gold, 1,600,000 Daru, Fashion Core x25, Mahra x100, Sylph Sepulcrum x100, Mount Hoof x100, Lvl. 7 HP Gem x2, Old-fashioned Pack x10

You buy sepu worth 19900 balens, prev. packs total value is 12444, this one is 13096. That's a total of 51% bonus! Same as with last big spender, the first worthwhile pack is at 300 USD. Sad news for low cashers.

Spend 50,000 Balens to receive: 4,000,000 Gold, 2,000,000 Daru, Fashion Core x40, Mahra x150, Sylph Sepulcrum x150, Mount Hoof x150, Lvl. 8 HP Gem x1, Chimera Card x1

You buy sepu worth 33200 balens, prev. packs total value is 25540, this one is 26144. That's 69% bonus, the first time in Wartune's history that the 500 USD pack is a better deal than the 300 USD pack.

But there are a few things to notice: if you are considering to buy an 500 USD pack, prolly you already spent thousands on this game. Then your sylph is in the several star purple (or even orange category). In this case, mahra worth far less than 10 balens, since you need a LOT for a tiny upgrade. Also, you prolly refined all clothes. When refining a 2 or 3 star cloth again, you win much less BR for the same balen, so a core worth much less for you. So the above bonus refers to a "wartune virgin's" purchase bonus. For veterans, who actually buy this, the real total value of the above packs (1 BR / balen-wise) is more like 36604, so your bonus here is only 39% (and it is less for previous packs as well).

Anyway, the bonus is nice, there are 2 things I don't like:

1.) I get in the pack a lot of things I don't need. Some gold is okay, but sylph xp scroll, daru, insignia, old-fashioned packs? C'mon...

2.) This is just too much in one month. 5-600 USD, I would like to spend it in 6-12 monhts, not in one.

2014/06/23

The truth about sepulcrum

About a month ago, I did some testings about sepulcrum, and I found that feeding sepulcrum to my sylph did not improve my combat damage in awakened form. Since that, we did a lot more accurate testings, and were able to reverse-engineer the precise combat formulae, many thanks to Tihh! And it seems I was wrong: a sylph's atk IS added to your attack in awakened form, so relax, sepulcrum is good stuff, get as much as you can :)



So sepulcrum does 4 things:
  1. as the sylph's hp increases, so does yours.
  2. it increases the damage of the sylph when in passive form.
  3. it's atk is added to yours in awakened form.
  4. it helps you collect more sepulcrum in the sylph arena (if you can make it to the top 3).
Sepulcrum is one of the rare resources where the more you spend, the more you gain. For example, the formulae for your sylph's attack is STR/INT apt * Strength/Intelligence * 0.0018. So the higher it's basic stats, the more you gain from a sepulcrum.

Mahra does really nothing besides increasing the maximum amount of sepulcrum you can feed to your sylph. So unless you are a really heavy casher, you shouldn't advance you sylph past purple 1-star. After you evolved your sylph, you can spend sepulcrum for years until you hit the limit :)


And the conclusion?
1.) Sylph refinement. When you evolve your sylph, it's base stats improve a bit. Don't expect too much from it, unless you already pumped the maximum amount of sepulcrum into it and ready to feed it a lot more.The more sepulcrum you spent earlier, the more that +200 atk apt will increase your attack.
2.) Mahra vs sepulcrum. When you have the option between sepulcrum or mahra, get the mahra if you don't have a single purple sylph yet, otherwise get the sepulcrum. Unless if your sylph is maxed already, then choose these mahra of course.

See more details about sylphs in my sylph spoiler article.

2014/05/11

Everything about sylphs

I finished my page, where I collected all the secrets about sylphs. You won't find there listings of sylphs skills, resistances. There are many pages which do that. I wrote here about tricks which many players don't know. If you like it, please share the page and the link of my blog :)


Warning: the info which follows below is for only hardcore competitive players.